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kikvel 07-01-2005 06:35 PM

TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
How to get the money required.

Money collection.

Do we need to keep this confidential? or not? Open model vs close model


mlopes 07-01-2005 09:34 PM

Re: TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
i will always go to the open model, at least as first choice.


green 07-02-2005 02:22 PM

Re: TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
Funny, this is the thread of all TE Bokk project thread with the least messages. How weird ;-)

Money collection seems to be the best solution depending and a Paypal account could be set for this.

Porteplume 07-02-2005 02:52 PM

Weird indeed!
Weird indeed! :o)

But, as I'm not an accountant, I can better leave the technical part of financing to the experts but I'm in for participating with the costs.

Amicalement - Viviane

kikvel 07-02-2005 03:12 PM

Re: TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
I propose a very simple fund collection rule. We need to have at least a set of "confirmed buyers".

This group must rach at least 300 copies. I suggest everyone to confirm how many copies you are interested in.

We can assume a "value", let us say 60USD per copy, without taxes and shipping costs. This is not the cost of the copy, it is the "sales" value.

I clarify again, this is not a compromise, but just a figure to start thinking how much would the people pay for the copy. And to have an idea of how many copies we may print.

On the other hand paypal is ok. There are some countries where this does not work, for instance mine. So we have to find out at least three or four ways to collect the money in order to cover all of the countries involved in this project.


kikvel 07-02-2005 04:00 PM

I would go for two copies

Porteplume 07-02-2005 04:14 PM

I would go for just one copie...
I'm sure 60USD per copy is a lot of money for many of us, so I'd not go for more than one copy before having seen the results.

After seeing one first exemplar, I may afford to get more as a nice idea for a birthday or as next Christmas'presents...


kikvel 07-02-2005 04:54 PM

OK let`s go the opposite direction
I rectify myself

It is important to mentio here how much you can afford per copy ona personal basis.
This will also affect the size of the printing, number of pages, etc etc.

I say I can afford two copies at a maximum price of 60USD each one.
You state your position like:

Two copies at 10 USD.
Four copies at 20 USD.

This is just an exercise. But please keep in mind "normal" prices that you can find easily everywhere at book stores (web pages etc etc).


kikvel 07-02-2005 04:56 PM

and Viviane
if we all wait to see the results we will not See any...


Porteplume 07-02-2005 05:03 PM

Yes of course...
But I thought if enough members - say some 100 people - are garanting to buy at least one exemplar 60USD [or 2 ex. 30USD] then you could calculate if the project can be started?

Then I assume after the book has being found worth it, we could buy more and maybe more TE-ers will be curious too?


jrj 07-02-2005 06:12 PM

Re: TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
The money requiered will depend on the book. Size is essential. In principle 300 sheets will probably be twice the prize as 150 sheets.

The number printed is also essential. The smaller number the higher prize.

For selling the books we can establish i.e. and have an ordinaire webshop for ordering. Preorders may be essential to have founds for the printing. Webshop or PayPal organized is only administrative tools, no problem to organize.

If some one could check with a printing house what the price is for a 150 sheet or 300 sheet, all in 4 colour. Numbers printed i.e. 500 - 1000 or 3000 then it simplify the process.

mlopes 07-05-2005 04:44 AM

Re: TE book - Thread for funds and money related issues
is it possible to gather sponsers?

- Photography related companies willing to join this?
- Municipalities or Tourism office from the countries represented in the book?

just wonder, i think that this can't be done only with our money... well in fact it can, gosh i'm going bankrupt eheh

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